Richmond breaks free.

[richmond62]

Well: as 'things' are stagnant if not moribund hereabouts, at the risk of offending various people [Oh, to hell with all that polite rubbish: I really do feel that as 'fekk-all' seems to be happening with 'OXT', I want to be slightly offensive.], I am going to see what I can do.

AND, apart from anything else, I LIKE the coloured icons from past versions:
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AND, lest anyone have any illusions, anything I manage to produce will be:

1. Slightly retro.

2. Unsurprising.

3. The ONLY 'new' capability may refer to SVG import.

[richmond62]

Messed around with SVG import as per: https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.p ... d&start=15
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4. Save the script and convey it to someone appropriate.

HOWEVER, I do wonder about whether the text relating to copyright and so forth needs modifying.

[richmond62]

Well, LC 6.7.10 was NOT going to function on MacOS 12, so I hopped over to my 32-bit Linux laptop.

[richmond62]

BUT: wait a hairy moment: the coloured 'revMenuBar' icons I like are STILL present in the LC 963 package in the 'revicons' stack.

Good thing some people like to make enormous fat files instead of clearing out the 'out-dated' stuff.
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Instead of faffing around exchanging icons in the 'revMenuBar' stack, as that won't stick as the thing is generated from a script . . .

I think:

1. I'll have a 'bash' at the 'revMenuBar' script, and, failing that at the 'home' script.

[richmond62]

Editing the 'home' stack looks positive:
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Now I'll try to be a bit 'cleverer' and mess with an icon.
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'hosed' the 'revmenuBar' stack completely.

[richmond62]

Mucking around with the 'revTools' script:
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Did NOTHING either.

[richmond62]

However, a few months ago I fooled around with the 'revMenuBar' icons, so better go back to my backup disks and locate that one.

Funny how I cannot remember how I did that.

[richmond62]

Personally I think I'll stick with my old McIntosh hunting kilt as it feels comfortable and has served me well this 40 towmond syne,but, in every other respects Freddie is 'my man' as I embark on my personal Runtime Revolution:
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And if that is 'one step too far for you, you can push off and talk 'high finance' with the others, who will do that until the cows come home with precious little result.

[richmond62]

Ooooer: having modded a copy of LC 963 quite substantially, but so that it does work [with my modifications], I attempted to COPY the app from one folder to another . . . the PASTED copy won't work:
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So . . . this morning's question is:

1. Is that a problem with HOW the OS copies files?

2. If not #1, how is the copy process screwing up the app?

[richmond62]

Well: at least I have cracked the Dictionary at last:

https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.p ... 62#p225262

[richmond62]

I copied back yesterday's Time machine backup (remember Backups? I fekked up really badly and lost 3 months' of work in 1998 and learnt my lesson the hard way) and even my modded app, having been copied back, refused to run . . .
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"Защо?" as they say in Bulgarian: of "WTF?" as the spotty, snotty teenagers wh0 fondly imagine I am teaching them English say.

[richmond62]

Very 'quair' indeed [I am using the Scots variant of the word 'Queer' as it has developed different meanings south of the border - pace Freddie Mercury ], 'specially as the 'original' version on my HD, in its 'original' position continues to play ball (copies only play 'balls'):
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Stupid Meaningless Survey Number 108:

Which do you prefer?

1. The functioning app WITHOUT an icon.

2. The non-functioning app WITH an icon.

Please do not bother to state a preference because the whole thing is a load of old . . . .
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[tperry2x]

Well, that's weird. I can only guess that copying the files is breaking some kind of digital signature used by the OS to verify if the app has been tampered with.
(this kind of thing is partly why I switched to Linux, because I want to have control over my own system).
Not that this helps the development on a mac at all, so I'll shut up and eat my opinions
The only other thing I can think of is a permissions thing. By copying files as you, does it change access permissions or ownership? Will this break anything in Apple's walled garden? (sorry, I did it again)

[tperry2x]

Incidentally, I like the name rmCODE.
I suspect you used the rm for obvious reasons, but I like the rm as it's the command for remove. So removing code (barriers...) - perhaps that's grasping at straws, but makes sense to me.

[richmond62]

I shall now have to 'retrace my steps' to see at which point the modded version fekks up, which will be a "right fiddle", but at the moment that is what seems to be the way ahead [sort of going forwards by going backwards] and has to be done BEFORE I attempt any further modifications.

Certainly at the moment 'rmCODE' stands for 'right mess code', so, unless I sort things out . . .

[richmond62]

So, here I am . . .
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. . . and have decided my 'spiritual home' is going to be here for quite some time:
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[richmond62]

Current personal mental problem:
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Luckily I have been saved quite a bit of bother as "some people" are untidy and like to leave 'outdated' gubbins lying around:
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The resources or revStudio, on-rev, and revEnterprise particularly appeal to my sense of humour (Oh, and that '3.5' is rather fun).

[richmond62]

Well, slowly getting "somewhere" . . .
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Although the areas marked in red are pains in the bum and should go, as well as those dividers than look as though they have been ripped off from XFCE panel separators.

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[richmond62]

So, it is EASY to edit the home.livecodescript file to shorten the 'revMenuBar' stack, but as soon as you attempt to change the location of a button pn the 'revMenuBar' stack the stack vanishes.
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So, the inevitable question is HOW to move the (now invisible) Dictionary button up next to the Errors button.

Erm: an edit in the revmenubar.livescript file:
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Supposedly open source software should be fully documented . . . like fekk!

Any one want to guess where and what I have to edit to move the revMenuBar stack back to 13 pixels 'off' the left-hand side of the monitor in line with the revTools palette . . .
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[richmond62]

It seems "fairly" easy to muck around with menus and palettes, but as soon as one starts mucking around with the CORE things go wonky.

So, the next question is, is it really possible to hive off a debranded version WITHOUT recourse to performing builds from the source code?
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BUT . . . no obvious safety button with LC.