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Cockroaches

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:21 pm
by richmond62
It has become apparent, in case we didn't know already, that our friends in the north, in their unhealthy obsession
with 'ever onwards, ever upwards' have been distinctly remiss with regard to bugs in rather basic,
central features of the IDE we know and love-to-hate . . .

It would be sad if these bugs continue to be a feature of OXT.

https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=37839

https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=37840

and these are just 2 of a whole slew of the things.

Stumping off to have 'work around' tattooed on my bottom. 8-)

Re: Cockroaches

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:33 pm
by tperry2x
Yes, and these are the bugs we know about.
How many more lie undiscovered?

I was reading through this forum. Backtracking really, just to see if there was anything that I'd not yet read.

I was reading the experiments that had been done with openai. Can it possibly not only be taught to write xtalk code, but can it be used to debug existing code?

So my next question is, can it debug all the source code and find things that aren't working?

Could it even rewrite the engine, updating libraries and fixing vulnerabilities?

Re: Cockroaches

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 2:40 am
by FourthWorld
richmond62 wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:21 pm It would be sad if these bugs continue to be a feature of OXT.

https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=37839

https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=37840
You might want to read the entirety of those threads before committing to full-on Henny Penny.

Re: Cockroaches

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 2:46 am
by FourthWorld
tperry2x wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:33 pm Yes, and these are the bugs we know about.
How many more lie undiscovered?
Ever read OS CVE lists? ;)
I was reading the experiments that had been done with openai. Can it possibly not only be taught to write xtalk code, but can it be used to debug existing code?

So my next question is, can it debug all the source code and find things that aren't working?

Could it even rewrite the engine, updating libraries and fixing vulnerabilities?
Doubtful. Generative "AI" is basically caffeinated autocomplete. It's usually good at mimicking how a human would write, but literally doesn't understand a single word it writes.

For debugging inspiration see Clang. The guidance it offers from analyzing the full execution context is brilliant.

Re: Cockroaches

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:52 am
by tperry2x
FourthWorld wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 2:46 am Ever read OS CVE lists? ;)
Yes, all the time. Unfortunately I work with Windows, so it's a must.