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1.07 blip on Xubuntu

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 2:15 pm
by richmond62
The scriptEditor will not accept the cursor unless the revTools stack is closed.

Re: 1.07 blip on Xubuntu

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 2:33 pm
by tperry2x
Ah, you are on xubuntu.
Edit:
Short version:
Make sure you don't have a stack inspector open. Every time I have a stack inspector open, I can't get a focus in the script editor window. I know about that though, and it's what's prompting me to make my own. (I'd have it finished if it wasn't for having to deal with Widgets, which is causing me a headache - and makes the iteration through font issue look trivial).

Anyway...

Long version (which you can ignore if the short version worked):
If you've got the "Application Browser" open too, things are probably trying to toplevel themselves and having issues.

Please try turning this off, which might help:
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Or close the inspector if you have it open.

(it really depends on what windows you have open right now) - I know it shouldn't, but it does. I'm fighting the engine here.
I know that the 'buntus are problematic with OXT - and LCC is almost unusable out of the box with them I found.

You might have to play around a bit with these settings:
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I mean, it shouldn't do this so much now, but it does still do some weird stuff from time to time.

This is because of Linux windowmanager incompatibilities, as we know - no concept of systemwindow (even though MacOS and Windows do), so workarounds have to be put in place. Another reason why I want to change the engine underneath, not that any of that is going to happen any time soon.

Video of this working in xubuntu here.
Why are there so many options?
Partly because Linux can vary so much, and partly because some window managers just don't play well with the IDE. So these options are put in so that they can be tweaked for each distro if needed (mostly they don't need much adjustment now), but the 'buntus are known to give window juggling and focus issues. This has largely been corrected, the last part of that correction is dealing with the errant Inspector palette - which will happen.... one day.

Re: 1.07 blip on Xubuntu

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 9:56 am
by richmond62
Good: having done those 2 things I can get focus directly in the scriptEditor.

HOWEVER . . .

Newbies may be 'thrown' as they will not know how to do this.
and LCC is almost unusable out of the box with them I found
Having just had a quick fiddle with LC 963 on Xubuntu the ONLY obvious problem was being unable to focus on the messageBox: focus in the scriptEdior was not a problem.

Re: 1.07 blip on Xubuntu

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 2:11 pm
by tperry2x
richmond62 wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 9:56 am Having just had a quick fiddle with LC 963 on Xubuntu the ONLY obvious problem was being unable to focus on the messageBox: focus in the scriptEdior was not a problem.
In LCC 9.6.3 in xubuntu, can you try an experiment for me. If you have a new stack open, then the message box, then the 'stack inspector', do you get any window juggling issues (the titlebars of various windows flashing as they juggle for focus, and the cpu usage spiking)?

Can you also open a script editor?

I know it's not ideal, but I'm glad it's at least usable with a combination of options. I tried to cover multiple possible scenarios for multiple distros, so it's knowing what combination works. I know it's not the best for new users, so I'd like to have the IDE set the best possible combination of options for the user depending on the distro in future. What combination of options worked for you?