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An ARMless situation.

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:06 am
by richmond62
Indeed.

Can we put out a general appeal for:

1. A programmer to build an ARM Mac engine?

2. Donations to pay that programmer?

In the light of what T and P have found inside the currently available engine code how much work would this really involve?

I suspect there are people who are paying for licences only for an alternative product because of the capability to run that IDE on an ARM Mac and build standalones for it.

If we can find someone who can build us an ARM Mac engine for, say, $1000, we can point out that a $50 donation is considerably cheaper than a year's licence for an alternative product.

Re: An ARMless situation.

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:42 am
by richmond62
This afternoon a seriously serious programmer is coming out to the village (wants to pick my brains about interface design), and I will 'wiggle my bum at him' re an ARM engine on the miniscule chance . . .

Obviously any conversation will go nowhere unless I can direct him to source code and engine 'guff', so if you could point me in the right direction that would be useful.

Re: An ARMless situation.

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:01 am
by tperry2x
Paul's OXT engine github page:
https://github.com/OpenXTalk-org/OpenXT ... munity-DPE

My stuff:
https://mega.nz/folder/RfNDgQAL#iMA5Kld1K-YOMqKjJ1-hiQ

Specifically, the changes I made:
https://mega.nz/folder/RfNDgQAL#iMA5Kld ... r/ZLNUGJoQ

(as well as sticky back plastic, safety scissors, paperclips, pipe cleaners, and adult supervision), you may also need these prebuilts:
https://mega.nz/folder/RfNDgQAL#iMA5Kld ... r/IGNglB5C

Windows gumpf you may need:
https://mega.nz/folder/RfNDgQAL#iMA5Kld ... r/gLl0RCgK

MacOS SDKs:
https://mega.nz/folder/RfNDgQAL#iMA5Kld ... r/gHMgkRYQ

My revised source that I CAN get to compile in Linux:
https://mega.nz/folder/RfNDgQAL#iMA5Kld ... r/EKMCFZCJ

(Info on how you are supposed to be able to compile it on the mac, environment setup etc)
https://github.com/livecode/livecode/bl ... ild-mac.md

...and the corresponding instructions for the windows compile:
https://github.com/livecode/livecode/bl ... ild-win.md

Information from Apple, regarding switching code from intel over to Arm instruction sets:
https://developer.apple.com/documentati ... platforms/
more:
https://developer.apple.com/documentati ... e-silicon/

Re: An ARMless situation.

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:12 am
by richmond62
Thanks.

I might try to bribe him with some of my yellow tomatoes. 8-)

Re: An ARMless situation.

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:08 pm
by richmond62
So . . . the man bit, and will be takkin a glisk at those links and aa ower the weekend.

I "subtly" suggested (no, I didn't, I was as blunt as a shovel), a student on summer holiday, a stray under-employed one of "theren", and so on.

I would not hold out ower much hope, but stranger things . . .

Re: An ARMless situation.

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:06 am
by richmond62
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I wonder . . .

Re: An ARMless situation.

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:29 am
by richmond62
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Talk about "reeling someone in . . ." 8-)