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Posted: **Thu May 30, 2024 8:42 am**

As LiveCode have been fairly nasty about posting links to OpenXTalk on their forums (could that be because they are afraid of OXT poaching potential customers? Frankly pathetic consodering HOW much a LiveCode subscription costs) every time I see something like this on the LC Forums:

Hello
I have coded several solutions for my research lab with the community version of live code, which was for free. The fact that it was free drove the decision to use it, but also because I had experience with HyperCard.

Since the company abandoned the community editions, pricing became more and more expensive, and just now I realized that the current cheapest option is around 400 USD, which gives me access for only one year, although the compiled stacks will continue to work beyond that.

It is painful to pay that price simply because I have to only recompile existing stacks because the standalone broke with a macOS upgrade, and then not use the IDE anymore because after all these years of debugging, my software is basically sufficiently bug free that it runs without issues.

I am now considering my options. For some computers in my lab, it is not important that they run the latest macOS — I thought to maybe downgrade to an macOS that ran the latest community edition of liveCode.

I send a private message to the OP a bit like this:

As LiveCode no longer supports the open source versions of LiveCode you might like to try the Open Source continuing version:

OpenXTalk Lite: https://openxtalk.org/

https://openxtalk.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=590

It should NOT be only me who is the "Knight in slightly tarnished armour" who is doing this . . .

Posted: **Fri May 31, 2024 4:08 pm**

It needs to be known that OXT exists. From that point, people can make their own choices.

Posted: **Fri May 31, 2024 7:39 pm**

I can only speak from my experience and that has been that no one has ever been nasty to me about that, I was only asked to not use their forums to promote something other than their products. Seems fair enough. They do seem to mention 'open-source' version when it still suits them to, which muddies the waters me thinks.

But anyway, that's why we have our own forum here where you're free to talk about LiveCode (no bashing please), HyperCard Simulator, Open XION, ViperCard, SuperCard, Macromind Director/Lingo, or any other xTalk and natural language scripting related thing one might want to talk about. And there's even a sub-forum for off-topic random non-sense too!

Posted: **Fri May 31, 2024 7:48 pm**

On the subject of promoting the OpenXTalk initiative, one might try searching for related articles, videos. reddit threads, etc. and comment about OXT in their comments section. I fairly regularly still find mentions of fond memories about HyperCard, and of course there are always people in those comments sections lamenting the lack of a modern equivalent to HyperCard.

I'm totally in favor of embracing the HyperCard/xTalk heritage, while others have seemed to want to distance themselves from that legacy for some reason. In two and a half years time it will be the 40th anniversary of HyperCard / xTalk so maybe we should plan some sort of promotional campaign for that?

Here's one I just found from a year ago, focused on Decker, which I consider an xCard though its scripting language ('Lil') is an array focused language but not quite xTalk:
https://intfiction.org/t/decker-an-open ... f/60473/10

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